Black Market BBLs: When Plastic Surgery Turns Deadly

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We’re obsessed with true crime, so why wouldn’t we do an episode on it?

Pulling back the curtain on the wild world where plastic surgery and crime collide, San Diego plastic surgeon Dr. G and Bri debate unsolved murders in the industry and weigh in on those shady underground BBLs… it’s a mix of “WTF” and “watch who you trust.”

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Dr. G (00:02):
You are listening to another episode of All the B’s with me, Dr. G, and my scrub tech Bri. So welcome back for another episode of All the B’s. We are just all recovering from the Super Bowl. Not really, but.

Bri (00:21):
Go Kendrick.

Dr. G (00:22):
Team. Kendrick.

Bri (00:24):
I don’t even know who was playing.

Dr. G (00:27):
I feel like that’s fair for you. It’s the Kansas City Chiefs.

Bri (00:32):
I could have a whole, I didn’t even know the Chiefs were from Kansas City and that I also offended somebody by saying Oh yeah, no one knew who Travis Kelce was, I know that whole thing, until Taylor Swift.

Dr. G (00:42):
Oh yeah. Our anesthesiologist was like, he’s like,

Bri (00:46):
He’s like the best, what is he a quarterback or something?

Dr. G (00:49):
No. Receiver?

Bri (00:52):
Receiver. Anyways.

Dr. G (00:53):
He has mad stats but, yeah.

Bri (00:57):
But couldn’t catch a ball this entire Super Bowl.

Dr. G (00:59):
He did catch one I think. Don’t quote me on that though. Yeah, the game was kind of boring anyway, but not as interesting, it certainly wasn’t as interesting as either the halftime show or Tom Cruise’s face in his Mission Impossible movie trailer that aired in which he just looked, as you said, hungover.

Bri (01:24):
He looks so hungover. He just looks like he does not want to be there. He just needs to let himself age gracefully.

Dr. G (01:33):
I mean I think he is. I just think he had a fat transfer and it hasn’t settled down. I don’t even think it’s filler. I think these people go right for the fat transfer, which should have rejuvenating effects over time. It’s just might’ve wanted to stage it out a little.

Bri (01:49):
It’s just too much.

Dr. G (01:51):
Yeah, it always looks overdone and then it all melts away because this picture here is from October, 2021 and it’s probably the last time he had a fat transfer and I feel like he’s all Scientology, right? So probably did PRP injections and all that stuff and that just looks puffy until it fades away. You won’t hold onto it.

Bri (02:09):
He look so much better there.

Dr. G (02:10):
I know, but I bet it goes away. Yeah, he just looks smooth with no face contours, in sharp contrast to Tom Brady.

Bri (02:20):
Yeah, who was tight and right, but not that tight.

Dr. G (02:26):
No. Yeah, this just looks, it does look weird. It also, same for Tom Brady. I feel like they also have a ridiculous amount of makeup on. Looks weird.

Bri (02:42):
Yeah, I think he just took too much ozempic that week. He has a little anxiety from his ex-wife doing his Jiujitsu instructor and popping out a baby a couple weeks ago. I think that the only thing I had notable was his watch.

Dr. G (02:58):
Oh, Tom Brady?

Bri (02:59):
Yeah, his Tiffany and company $744,000 watch.

Dr. G (03:06):
Yes. So moving on to Tom Brady. Yeah, I think he looked the opposite of Tom Cruise. So we’re just sticking with Tom’s here I guess, and that he just looked really thin, which when I dug around a little bit. I guess he has some nutrition line or I don’t know. He sells some sort meal plan.

Bri (03:22):
Oh yeah, he’s talked about it before on when he gets roasted.

Dr. G (03:27):
Yeah, has some sort, so whatever his diet is is getting him lean and mean and I don’t really think his face was stiff per se. I think he just is also had a lot of makeup on compared to the other older guy that he was commentating with and then just is gaunt for what it’s worth. So hair’s an improvement from the past.

Bri (03:53):
We like the hair. Hair looks great.

Dr. G (03:55):
And the watch. He scored with the watch.

Bri (03:59):
Ugh, Justin, I just have to side note here because we just recorded this entire podcast and we got all the way up through talking for 20 minutes about Justin and then we realized we weren’t recording so we’re going to breeze through this. But you missed some really good commentary the first time. What a crap show.

Dr. G (04:20):
Yeah, it really is. I can’t believe he’s doing it, he’s doing an interview. It’s on a podcast. He should come on our podcast and tell us.

Bri (04:28):
He should.

Dr. G (04:28):
Tell us.

Bri (04:30):
Justin, come on here.

Dr. G (04:33):
We have questions.

Bri (04:34):
With your 2:00 AM voice notes.

Dr. G (04:36):
So yeah, we were talking about how it’s just now that they keep releasing texts from everybody, including Ryan Reynolds. These texts are just super, super long and aren’t you on set with these people? Can’t you just have that conversation. I feel like it would be us at work and then you get home and I got to send you a two page text about.

Bri (04:58):
You never do that because she only gives you the thumbs up or

Dr. G (05:01):
I do not.

Bri (05:01):
K or likes the message. I’m like okay, you either hate me or.

Dr. G (05:06):
You do that. Kk. Kk. I double K it.

Bri (05:12):
See nowadays we only use K when you’re mad at somebody. When I’m mad at Eric, I’ll just send him a K and then he just know it’s about to downward spiral from there.

Dr. G (05:23):
Yeah, I don’t send super long texts. I think it’s weird and maybe that’s just the surgeon’s thing to send these are my thoughts about tomorrow’s scene. Save that.

Bri (05:36):
I would love to know your two a thoughts. Yeah, no, I was saying that all we can do in this office is watch the memes of Blake Lively listening to Justin’s two am voice note as white noise and then you just hear her vibrate or turn on.

Dr. G (05:51):
It’s a good little spoof, that is.

Bri (05:53):
It’s so good. Yeah, I think he was excited. He was like, oh, I got Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds. He’s like, I’m just going to group chat, see where this goes. And it just blew up in his face.

Dr. G (06:04):
Yeah, I think he got way more than he bargained for when he brought her on the project, which was his to start with, and they just steamrolled all over him and took over.

Bri (06:16):
They went back and did, I was watching some interviews from her on how rude she was to people and they did this whole one interview and it was like, oh, how would you want to address or reach out to people? I think they were talking about domestic violence. Did you see that? And she was like, what should I give her my house address? Do you want my personal cell phone? I don’t know. She was super rude. So I can’t side with her on this one after watching all of her stuff.

Dr. G (06:47):
This is not going, it’s so doubly annoying because her message was like, don’t harass me, sexual harassment is bad. But then she’s like the worst poster child for this. It’s not clear that she was harassed. It just seems like she was a diva and didn’t get her way. And so now it’s really muck. It’s definitely muddied the waters in that respect and you’re just like, how are you poor me?

Bri (07:15):
I harass people more in the office.

Dr. G (07:18):
How can you be poor me but then have dragons? What? That doesn’t even add up.

Bri (07:25):
I have no idea.

Dr. G (07:25):
And then like I said, Justin’s like, I mean still would love to have ’em come on the podcast, but I think his long texts and voice memos are just like, why is there so much ass kissing between everybody? You guys are crazy.

Bri (07:40):
I said it was a threesome gone bad.

Dr. G (07:43):
I think it’s just weird. Maybe they all talk to each other like that in Hollywood all the time about how fabulous everybody is and how their creative energy is so amazing. And you’re so grateful for everything.

Bri (07:55):
Honestly though, I could use a little bit of that if you want to start sending me long messages on how much you appreciate me.

Dr. G (08:00):
I’m going to.

Bri (08:02):
I would feel really good about it.

Dr. G (08:07):
Okay, you’re appreciated. Thumbs up emoji.

Bri (08:10):
I’ve been waiting. Okay. Okay. Also Blake Lively wasn’t at the Super Bowl.

Dr. G (08:16):
Yes.

Bri (08:17):
I think everyone called it.

Dr. G (08:18):
No, it would be crazy for her to show up. I’m sure Taylor’s like get away from me right now. I don’t have time for this.

Bri (08:25):
She’s like, I’m already getting booed, with Blake Lively, she probably would’ve gotten cans thrown at her head.

Dr. G (08:32):
Yeah, that would’ve been no bueno. Okay, well let’s move on to our topic, which is true crime and plastic surgery. Regrettably, this individual, Dr. Carlos Chacon practiced in San Diego a little bit down south but was charged with murder after his patient was essentially coding on the table and failed to call 9 1 1 and actually ordered the employees not to call 9 1 1. Which I mean that’s impressive. If I told you guys not to do something, you all would be like hell no.

Bri (09:12):
We would call 9 1 1. But I also am very confident you would never tell us not to call 9 1 1. Yeah, you’d be like, bitch, get on the phone right now.

Dr. G (09:22):
I know. I feel like, I don’t know. This is crazy. Yeah, so years, so it’s been a few years since this poor woman died.

Bri (09:34):
Six days before Christmas.

Dr. G (09:35):
They started investigating what happened and I think he just continued to stall. The husband called to check on his wife and they told her she was fine, told him she was fine and that again at 3:30 called, then he called a couple of anesthesiologists to get their advice at both 3:15 and 5:00 PM and those doctors were like, you need to call 9 1 1. He called anesthesiologists. So part of the problem was that he didn’t have an actual anesthesia provider doing his care. He was seeing patients in between.

Bri (10:17):
So where did he think that was going to go? You have a patient that’s essentially dead on your table. What were you, where does he?

Dr. G (10:27):
I don’t know. I mean even if you’re in a hospital setting, even if you’re in the OR at a hospital and something goes sideways in the OR, it’s like the first thing you do is call in for reinforcement. So I don’t understand.

Bri (10:43):
The surgical technician admitted she personally, I could do anesthesia. That’s crazy.

Dr. G (10:52):
Yeah, that’s what I mean. So I think the reason he didn’t do what most people would do is call in for backup is that he knew that he wasn’t operating within standards. So he doesn’t have an anesthesiologist, he has a scrub tech doing anesthesia. Everything is, he probably didn’t have a functioning crash cart. He knew if he called 9 1 1 there would be an investigation. I just think he didn’t think, if I don’t call 9 1 1, what is going to magically happen to reverse the current course, which was this poor woman dying.

Bri (11:28):
Which probably also would stem to Hughes doing general or twilight sedation without being an accredited facility. Right? If you don’t have all that stuff.

Dr. G (11:38):
Right.

Bri (11:38):
Like, having a crash card and so forth is all in guidelines and being checked by accreditation.

Dr. G (11:46):
So the circulator was a high school dropout. That’s nice. The person doing anesthesia was a scrub tech and then he was just, I don’t know, not functioning like a normal human being. Terrible.

Bri (12:06):
That’s crazy.

Dr. G (12:10):
So they prosecute him, not just like they charged him with second degree murder. So appropriately, honestly, it had been rare in the past before the onset of doctor death, a neurosurgeon who was just maiming people very hard to prosecute a physician for murder because it’s usually considered malpractice. But some of these people are just, they’re disregard for life and doing the opposite of what you’re supposed to do as a physician is staggering. I think his license was suspended and he was supposed to be seeing, he was allowed to see patients but with supervision and he was supposed to,

Bri (12:51):
Didn’t we have a patient come here and she was like, oh, I just had a consult there.

Dr. G (12:56):
Yes. So he was still seeing people before he faced criminal prosecution. I think he wasn’t allowed to operate in his office, but he was still allowed to, I don’t know, practice.

Bri (13:09):
That’s insane.

Dr. G (13:10):
And he wasn’t disclosing any of this to his patients. And we had a patient who called who had just had a consult with him. And at the time our nurse, we are not going to say, Hey, that guy’s a hack.

Bri (13:24):
Yeah, I think she was like, you should Google him.

Dr. G (13:27):
Yeah, try not to talk. You’re just trying to be professional. But she was like, you might want to Google the person you just saw because if you had would’ve seen, he had recently been indicted and so she did. And then she came and saw us and she jokingly told Jordan that she had shown her tits to a murderer. And I was like, I mean that’s one way of looking at it.

Bri (13:52):
Insane. I just don’t understand. If you called 9 1 1 and she survived right away, at least you would not be charged with murder. You would just probably lose your license, lose everything you love, but you would be out of prison.

Dr. G (14:04):
And you might save someone’s life.

Bri (14:06):
Yeah, exactly. I feel like we could go on about this for a long time.

Dr. G (14:11):
The thing is that this isn’t the first time this has happened. It’s the first time this happened for this particular person. But definitely it happens, it happened in Colorado, the almost the exact same scenario where the issue wasn’t that there was a complication and the patient was in trouble. The issue was that the decision was made not to call 9 1 1 and deal with it, which is just really out of pocket, honestly.

Bri (14:36):
Right. And as a plastic surgeon, I mean, would you be confident telling me what to administer for anesthesia? That’s not you. They do a whole other education.

Dr. G (14:46):
No, that’s why I have a board certified anesthesiologist. I don’t actually even having a CRNA, which was a situation in Colorado, so a nurse anesthetist, because it depends state to state. Sometimes nurse anesthetists are supposed to function as an extender of an anesthesiologist and in some states they can practice independently. And I actually don’t know what the situation is in California. I don’t care.

Bri (15:12):
I think they can practice independently.

Dr. G (15:15):
which is great, but they don’t have the background. And anesthesia, I’m probably going to get punished for this, but I feel like it’s sort of like a midwife versus an obstetrician. The midwife is great most of the time, but if anything goes sideways, you call in the OB GYN. And so the same thing, the anesthetist is great until something off happens and then you need an anesthesiologist. And even then you might, I mean anesthesia true crimes a whole other.

Bri (15:48):
Yeah, no offense. But a C-R-N-A is just a nurse who got their master’s. Like anesthesiologist, they go to medical school and then they do, I dunno exact terms, an extra four or five years training in anesthesiology. That’s just like

Dr. G (16:06):
Their whole job is to know what to do in these emergency situations. And we always make fun of, most of the time they’re just sitting there while we’re doing surgery. But it is much more, it’s putting the patient safely to sleep. It’s waking the patient up safely, making sure there is so much into it.

Bri (16:28):
They’re comfortable. You’re not just dripping dosing them with all of the drugs. There’s a whole lot that goes into it. When you wake up crappy from anesthesia. That has a lot to do with your anesthesiologist and what he’s giving you intraoperatively. We’re just dumping narcotics into the patient, you’ll probably wake up and feel like crap.

Dr. G (16:52):
Yeah, I think it’s, so, anyway, so I’m team anesthesiologist anyway, but he wasn’t even doing the bare minimum in this case, which was another reason it was so egregious and terrible.

Bri (17:04):
Crazy.

Dr. G (17:05):
Well if anybody remembers Heidi Montag, the next story. It was a plastic surgeon who took care of her.

Bri (17:12):
Who? Just kidding.

Dr. G (17:13):
Yeah, unfortunately

Bri (17:16):
I saw she put out a song.

Dr. G (17:17):
She did?

Bri (17:17):
Yeah, to help recoup her, she lost her house in the fires. So she put out a song and people listen to it to,

Dr. G (17:28):
Okay, is she still married to Spencer?

Bri (17:33):
Mm-hmm.

Dr. G (17:33):
All right, well.

Bri (17:33):
That kind of toxic love doesn’t just fade.

Dr. G (17:37):
Right. So yeah, back in the early aughts, she was all in every people magazine because of her plastic surgery, she had breast implants and she had bigger breast implants and she had massive breast implants and I think she downsized. I mean she just could not stop having plastic surgery. And Dr. Frank Ryan, who was her plastic surgeon at the time, was kind of responsible for that. I think she had a rhinoplasty. It was always like every other month we were hearing about Heidi’s plastic surgery.

Bri (18:11):
Didn’t she put out, she almost died from plastic surgery one time?

Dr. G (18:14):
I think. So she’s just so much. But then her poor plastic surgeon died before this was as well-known. Not that it solved any problems, but he was texting, I think he was tweeting as he was driving and drove off one of those cliffs up in Malibu, not Malibu, I don’t remember where the accident was, but his Jeep went off the side of the road rolled down and he didn’t survive and it was investigated and it turned out he was tweeting or texting, which is terrible.

Bri (18:52):
My mind goes to different places and I’m guessing it was suicide, but.

Dr. G (18:56):
Well, no, literally that was a concern that it was a suicide. And then they did a thorough investigation and realized that he had just been on his phone tweeting and missed the turn, which is awful.

Bri (19:11):
Don’t text and drive.

Dr. G (19:12):
Yeah. So that’s our PSA don’t text and drive. It’s really hard not to do when you’re stuck in traffic. But

Bri (19:19):
Yeah, that’s why we FaceTime and drive.

Dr. G (19:22):
Oh you do?

Bri (19:23):
Yeah, I just talk. I’ll call people. But even that is a certain level of distraction. But yeah, sending a text is a nightmare. I hate when my husband texts me and he knows I’m on the road, just call.

(19:35):
Yeah, I do the same thing. I’m like, don’t. Eric has gotten in an accident. I don’t know if texting and driving was in it and he got in a big giant four car, five car pile up or something. And I was like, were you on your phone, cuz I will kill you if you don’t die.

Dr. G (19:52):
Alright, so moving on a little bit more, this is a older San Diego story, not going to,

Bri (20:00):
It was the cartel.

Dr. G (20:01):
Not a plastic surgeon. This guy was a cosmetic surgeon who was shot in the front of his house and they shot his wife and killed her. So they got gunned down in the front of their house and it was never solved. So 18 years later, and we still don’t know why somebody rolled up to their house as they were pulling into their driveway and took shots.

Bri (20:33):
Rumors are down here it says that they thought that he performed plastic surgery to change the face of a cartel member and that they needed to get rid of anyone that knew the face. And I’m a hundred percent going with that. That’s my theory, I’m sticking with it. Financial problems is boring, I doubt it. No one’s going to shoot someone up over finances, maybe some bad boobs. But

Dr. G (20:58):
I mean there was a plastic surgeon in Florida in the last two years who shot his lawyer over, I think it was over money and did a terrible job of kind of walked in and not in front of everybody did make an attempt to get away with it, but the worst attempt ever.

Bri (21:14):
What is that baseball player who’s had no idea that his accountant was stealing millions and millions of dollars? If he didn’t shoot his accountant, you guys can’t go shoot people. Okay? Yeah. Not okay.

Dr. G (21:29):
I do know what you’re talking about, but since he’s a sports star, I have no idea what his name is, so just leave it at that.

Bri (21:35):
Yeah, I think he was, yeah, we’ll leave it alone. Why butcher something?

Dr. G (21:42):
Yeah, so this guy, I mean that’s a good theory. I always say it’s a hired, he hired somebody to kill his wife and then make it look like a hit because he got shot in the hand and the face. But they did actually some due diligence and investigation and decide there was no connection there. So that wasn’t a thing.

Bri (22:02):
It’s giving me either Mendez brother’s vibe or cartel.

Dr. G (22:07):
You’re going with cartel.

Bri (22:09):
I’m going to go with the cartel.

Dr. G (22:10):
I don’t know that they’ll ever solve it. It’s a bizarre story. If you dig into his career, they keep saying plastic surgeon, which bothers me because he was not a plastic surgeon. He was an ENT doctor who did cosmetic surgery. So I feel like in the media, if they could just clarify if somebody is actually trained in plastic surgery or just self-described, just usually means that they’re a cosmetic surgeon and it just muddies the water. So he was performing plastic surgery as a cosmetic surgeon. I looked his name up and there was a lot of legal problems pending lawsuits, malpractice claims, suspension or restriction of his medical license. I think there was something about payroll issues with embezzlement. It was not on the straight and narrow.

Bri (23:07):
It’s all those wannabe plastic surgeons. I’ve gone to two people who I thought were plastic surgeons. One of ’em you talked me out of, thank goodness. And he ended up having, I won’t say names, but having a death recently. And then the other one who did my boobs the first time. There’s a whole slew of things that I could say about that. He was also not even a

Dr. G (23:32):
Right. The one guy was an emergency medicine physician.

Bri (23:34):
Don’t even know what he did.

Dr. G (23:36):
And the other guy’s a general surgeon and neither of ’em have any formal training in plastic surgery. So it’s hard because you can’t tell necessarily looking at their website. Certainly when they do something ridiculous or hurt somebody, even the media can’t get it right. They call ’em a plastic surgeon without bothering to define what exactly was going on. The first guy we talked about who was plastic surgery trained, never was board certified for good reason. So you should ask about licensing and credentialing when you see somebody because I think that’s important. And then that’s here in California, if you’re in another state, the people that can do injections might be aestheticians or just anybody. There’s a lot less, at least the nursing board is pretty tight in California, so you can’t be injecting anything unless you’re an RN or higher. But if you can fog a mirror in Texas and you can inject somebody in the face if you choose to. So just knowing who you’re seeing and what their credentialing is and kind of just ask ’em a couple safety questions and see, we have patients that do that frequently, but I think those patients that are prioritizing safety and credentialing are going to seek us out versus looking for the cheapest cost. And so they ask, where are your hospital privileges? What happens if there’s an emergency?

Bri (25:07):
We will call 9 1 1.

Dr. G (25:10):
We will be calling, we are close to Scripps Memorial where I have privileges. So all of those things are important and I guarantee if you asked any of the people that we’ve thus covered, aside from the poor guy who was texting and driving, they aren’t going to be able to easily answer those questions.

Bri (25:28):
And this stems into the illegal butt implant.

Dr. G (25:31):
Yes, right. So what, this is usually a Miami story, but I guess it happened in LA where people with zero credentialing whatsoever advertising on Instagram that they will do butt implants on you.

Bri (25:49):
I wonder if they had the same surgical tech could do anesthesia for Davino here to do their, that’s crazy. And then you were saying that they can, we scroll down to their faces, not to judge, but they said people would see them on Instagram and come and I was like, how could you look at that and feel like they’re going to give you good quality work?

Dr. G (26:13):
Yeah. Why does that girl have her hair in ponytails? It’s weird.

Bri (26:17):
Why is, I have to hope she has a chin implant?

Dr. G (26:21):
No training, no standards. So again, it’s such a weird, it has to be criminal prosecution. You can’t take their medical license, cuz they don’t have one. It’s wild. And then they’re just injecting silicone. They’re going to Home Depot buying whatever and then injecting it. And I can’t believe that they killed somebody.

Bri (26:44):
Through Instagram. It’s scary because our old front desk girl reached out through Instagram to get butt injections and she could not, she’s like, oh I, she kept trying to verify the product if it was a legit place. And she would basically just say, oh, well I get it through out of the country. And she couldn’t tell her what was in it. And she had no actually a website, we couldn’t find any of her credentialing. We did a whole search because she’s like, I want to do it. And I was like, you definitely should not.

Dr. G (27:17):
Yeah, performed in a non-medical facility. I mean what her garage? I feel like it used to be more rampant and now it hasn’t been, but I guess it still happens, which is depressing that people will just go get something injected and hope it works. Even if they don’t kill you, it’s a disaster long-term to have straight silicone injected.

Bri (27:41):
Anywhere. And then even Botox, you don’t realize how many facial nerves and little arteries and little vessels that you can hit that you’re supposed to stay away from.

Dr. G (27:52):
Right.

Bri (27:53):
When I went to Mexico, they just shoved that little needle all over my face.

Dr. G (27:59):
Anatomy, what do you need that for?

Bri (28:03):
Overrated.

Dr. G (28:04):
Or in the case in Texas where they gave IV fluids to somebody like one of those IV hydration places and gave them the wrong thing and killed somebody.

Bri (28:14):
Oh really?

Dr. G (28:15):
Yes.

Bri (28:16):
I dunno if I heard about that one. It was not good. Just giving me the vibes of the guy who was lacing the IV bags with, what was it? And killing people.

Dr. G (28:26):
I don’t remember what he put in there, but it was not good.

Bri (28:28):
I can’t either. I hate people. The 2025 tattoo.

Dr. G (28:38):
So this poor woman died and then hopefully these two people are in a court date has not been scheduled and she posted bail, but this was a while ago. Oh, so they’ve been performing the procedures out of their home since oh, 2012. $14,000 for three sessions.

Bri (29:00):
Crazy.

Dr. G (29:02):
Okay, so you’re not even getting a good deal.

Bri (29:04):
No, that’s insane. Now I’m just confused.

Dr. G (29:09):
That’s ridiculous.

Bri (29:11):
Maybe if it was like 500 bucks out of the garage, sure.

Dr. G (29:14):
You’re paying 14 grand. I could do so much Scuptra.

Bri (29:17):
And pull up in a white van.

Dr. G (29:19):
I know. Stop. Alright.

Bri (29:24):
Free Botox. Free filler on the side of the van. I would a hundred percent go in.

Dr. G (29:31):
Hello Ted Bundy. What do you have for me? Okay. And then the last one, this patient who had actually breast and then so they sort of talk about how her breasts look after implants, but she had a double mastectomy. So let’s just back up and say this isn’t, the patient didn’t even have an augmentation for cosmetic reasons. She had reconstruction for breast cancer and then became unhinged, I guess murdered a surgeon, which is terrible. It’s not common. And generally we have a name for the type of person that does this and it’s usually a dude just because men I think are more violent in general.

Bri (30:21):
Hundred percent.

Dr. G (30:23):
We have an acronym in plastic surgery that’s called Simon. So you’re more likely to, if you operate on somebody with these characteristics, have trouble or potentially face violence from them if it doesn’t go perfectly. But anyway, Simon,

Bri (30:37):
Single,

Dr. G (30:38):
Single.

Bri (30:41):
Singls.

Dr. G (30:41):
Immature.

Bri (30:42):
Immature.

Dr. G (30:43):
Male.

Bri (30:43):
Male, asshole. Oh wait, wait, how do you spell

Dr. G (30:47):
O stands for out of proportion to, so whatever they think their problem is, they hate their nose is out of proportion to how awful their nose is. So sort of a body dysmorphia characteristic. So it tends to be male rhinoplasty, but that’s because that fits the single, immature, male, out of proportion to their deformity and narcissistic. So somebody who has narcissistic tendencies

Bri (31:12):
You’re describing every man I’ve ever dated.

Dr. G (31:16):
And so I know it’s been trending, and we absolutely just want to be clear, do not offer this at Restore SD Plastic Surgery in San Diego, but male genital enhancement, we can talk about labiaplasty all day long, but I’m not doing male genital enhancement ever.

Bri (31:33):
Please come. Please come in and ask for male enhancements.

Dr. G (31:36):
No, we get inquiries and I’m like, okay bro, why are you reaching out to an all female office for,

Bri (31:44):
That’s exactly why right there an all female office.

Dr. G (31:47):
So yeah, so we turned that down. But there is a, like I said, when I was in training, it was the Simon characteristics and it usually involved a male who was obsessed with their nose or had an unhappy rhinoplasty, but now with the advent of penis enhancement and fat transfer down there and whatever else they do, scro-tox. I just wonder, you really want to narrow the field to people who might be unhappy with how things look and then.

Bri (32:19):
That’s going to be it.

Dr. G (32:21):
It is not, that’s going to be your new Simon, I think.

Bri (32:24):
A hundred percent.

Dr. G (32:26):
I feel like there are some people entering that niche of surgery. I mean whatever. More power to ’em. Anyway, this lady had had unhappy breast reconstruction and figured out that this lady that showed up at his office and shot him and his front desk person, which is awful.

Bri (32:48):
I need to move back.

Dr. G (32:49):
Was a patient, an angry patient? So that sucks.

Bri (32:53):
I’m going to be the third, fourth to go, actually.

Dr. G (32:57):
You’re in the, I’m not on the front lines.

Bri (33:00):
I got three people ahead of me.

Dr. G (33:02):
I feel like the only time we’ve stressed out about somebody was not an actual patient. It was that weird medical student and I don’t think you were here for the period of time.

Bri (33:12):
Oh, interesting.

Dr. G (33:13):
This person started calling my office multiple times a day to chat with me about his career and it gave,

Bri (33:21):
I might’ve actually been there.

Dr. G (33:23):
Gave stalker vibes and then it turned out he had harassed some other plastic surgeons and had a weird history and perhaps impersonating a doctor and so we just blocked his call.

Bri (33:36):
Oh yeah, I was definitely there. I remember that.

Dr. G (33:39):
So it is crazy out there.

Bri (33:42):
Can we also talk about the plastic surgeon who killed his wife on the OR table because he knew it was cheaper to keep her and he didn’t want to keep her? I don’t care what you guys say. You don’t operate on your wife and let her die.

Dr. G (33:59):
Yes. That guy was in Florida, right. Again, refused to call 911. I mean, when it’s your wife, I just think also

Bri (34:12):
He knew better.

Dr. G (34:13):
If you learn nothing from Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni, all those texts are, you can find the texts, you can trace the calls.

Bri (34:22):
Florida police were called to Restore plastic surgery.

Dr. G (34:25):
I know.

Bri (34:26):
Oh, that’s rough.

Dr. G (34:27):
I was so mad when it happened because I was like, Restore what? So not Restore SD, but it’s mostly his name, Ben Brown, that’s all over the news. There was somebody who, a former patient of his that was all over Facebook after this happened, dedicating her life to smearing his name too, because she felt she had been botched. It was just a hot mess. But I think her complaints are going to really slide way down on the list of things once they decided that he killed his own wife.

Bri (35:01):
That’s just insane. He knew better.

Dr. G (35:05):
Yeah. I think she was functioning as his nurse, but maybe wasn’t credentialed. I mean this all sounds very similar to her, right? I mean, we’re just repeating the same story over and over again, which is somebody who should know better, should be credentialed, not operating in a credentialed setting with meeting standard of care. Employees are not meeting standard of care in terms of licensing, doing shit after hours and then it was an anesthetic overdose or there was too much lidocaine in the tumescent or something and she went into, he’s in shorts as he is getting walking away.

Bri (35:49):
But aren’t there protocols for lidocaine toxicity? We had this discussion I feel like not too long ago in the OR and then also call 9 1 1, like come on.

Dr. G (36:01):
Oh, right. She had no medical experience under the belt herself, mixed her own IV bags and ingested a handful of multicolored pills prior to the procedure. What?

Bri (36:12):
I’m confused.

Dr. G (36:13):
I think she messed that up, but he’s the surgeon supervising and the fact that she did it to herself is just wild because she was also, I heard through the grapevine, that he was bringing her to the facilities that he operated at the hospitals and stuff and she was scrubbing as his assist.

Bri (36:36):
How did that slide by?

Dr. G (36:37):
I don’t know. I think it eventually didn’t, people were like, wait, what? No, you can’t scrub in. You’re not credentialed. Again, it’s Florida.

Bri (36:45):
It gives me the vibe in Grey’s Anatomy when Christina’s husband couldn’t operate because he was shaking so much, so he needed Christina to operate with him and then they found out, so maybe he couldn’t operate anymore, so he needed her to come with and help him with something. I don’t know. But in the spirit of true crime.

Dr. G (37:05):
Yeah, right. When someone is an impaired physician, which is probably what this guy was, honestly, I feel like again, he actually had graduated, I’m trying to remember from what program, but a legitimate program and had been board certified, but sometimes people just spin out of control. And I think it wasn’t his first wife and there was a lot of, there are lives become soap operas and then it goes south.

Bri (37:29):
Cocaine.

Dr. G (37:30):
I don’t know cocaine that this happens to. I know. I’m not sure it happens to other types of surgery regrettably. So yeah, it looks like she had lidocaine toxicity and he just blew it off.

Bri (37:43):
She’s fine.

Dr. G (37:44):
It’s fine.

Bri (37:46):
Let her sleep for a couple hours. It’s fine.

Dr. G (37:48):
Again, one more time, the MA said did not call 9 1 1.

Bri (37:54):
Okay.

Dr. G (37:55):
I feel like they’re suing the guy who took out the liver instead of the spleen and they’re suing everybody in the OR for not saying something. So I don’t know. Maybe that’ll change. The culture of medicine is, at least in the hospital setting is supposed to be like if you see something, say something, because it helps that everybody’s on the same page and paying attention. I don’t know.

Bri (38:15):
I have a big mouth. I would say something.

Dr. G (38:17):
Careless and haphazard.

Bri (38:20):
And it’s your own wife. He knew what he was doing, so.

Dr. G (38:28):
Okay. Well that was super fun.

Bri (38:31):
If you need more information on how to leave with most of your assets, hit us up.

Dr. G (38:37):
That’s right. Or if you want to come on the podcast and talk to us about Justin Baldoni also. So if you have questions about plastic surgery or there is a certain topic you want to hear more about, or if there’s a true crime situation you want us to dive into, hit us up, put it in the comments, reach out. We want to hear more.

Bri (38:55):
We do. If any of you guys are putting your significant other in suitcases also please let us know.

Dr. G (39:03):
Alright, take care and talk to you next time.

Bri (39:06):
All the B’s.

Dr. G (39:08):
Bye.

Bri (39:08):
Oh wait. We’ll be back.

Dr. G (39:10):
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About Restore SD & Dr. Katerina Gallus

As the Director of Restore SD Plastic Surgery, board certified female San Diego plastic surgeon Dr. Katerina Gallus has over 20 years of experience helping patients enjoy head to toe rejuvenation with face, breast and body procedures. After a successful career as a Navy plastic surgeon, Dr. Gallus founded her San Diego plastic surgery center, Restore SD Plastic Surgery, with the intention of creating a welcoming space for anyone seeking cosmetic enhancement.

Restore SD Plastic Surgery offers popular facial rejuvenation procedures like facelift & neck lift, facial fat transfer, nanofat grafting and rhinoplasty; breast augmentation with implants, breast lifts or breast reduction; body contouring procedures such as tummy tuck, liposuction, mommy makeover, and Brazilian butt lift (BBL), as well as non-surgical aesthetician services, BOTOX, dermal fillers, laser treatments, and weight loss injections.

Dr. Gallus and her highly-experienced aesthetics team are here to help you look and feel your best! To schedule a personal consultation, please contact us online or call our office at (858) 224-2281 today. We proudly serve the San Diego and La Jolla areas.

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